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Samsung UN65F8000 65-Inch 1080p 240Hz 3D Ultra Slim Smart LED HDTV

Samsung UN65F8000 65-Inch 1080p 240Hz 3D Ultra Slim Smart LED HDTV

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Product Feature

  • 1080p HDTV with Micro Dimming: Best picture quality
  • 240Hz Refresh Rate: Best for general viewing, video games, action movies, and sports
  • Smart TV with Gesture Controls and a Built in Camera: Interact with streaming content and the web
  • Thin LED Design: TV without stand (Width x Height x Depth): 57 X 32.7 X 1.5 Inches, TV with stand (Width x Height x Depth): 57 X 34.3 X 14.5 Inches

Product Description




Samsung 65-Inch 1080p 240Hz 3D Ultra Slim Smart LED HDTV

Whether it's your voice or a simple hand gesture, with the new Ultra-Slim Samsung Smart TV F8000, controlling your TV is easier than ever before. You can talk to your TV in more natural ways such as asking, "What action movies are on", or you can perform all the basic commands such as "record", "last channel" and "turn on". You can also use hand gestures to browse the new intuitive Smart Hub, a central, easy-to-navigate hub of all your favorite content. You can even use gestures to use apps, play games and more. Samsung has also made it easier to keep up with the latest technology. The new Smart Evolution Kit updates your TV with new software, so you can keep enjoying new features without having to get a new TV. Discover how the new F8000 can keep up with both you, and the ever-changing world of technology.



LED F8000

Smart TV

Smart TV

The Samsung Smart TV finds the movies and TV shows you like - and more. Speak into the mic on the Smart Touch Remote to
get TV recommendations. Use gestures to swipe and navigate within the 5 Smart Hub content panels. Easily discover movies, shows, and social posts with less searching and more watching.


AllShare

AllShare

Allows your TV to wirelessly access and stream content from any compatible device, like a PC or mobile device. Share
movies, photos, and music all through a single device: your TV. And with cloud technology, you can access and even share content away from home.




Smart Interaction

Smart Interaction

Control your TV with hand gestures and voice commands spoken into the Smart Touch Remot Control. Use S-Recommendation with Voice Interaction to ask your TV to find things to watch and get program suggestions.

Smart Hub

Smart Hub

Our new interface organizes your entertainment and content into 5 convenient panels: On TV, Movies and TV Shows, Social, Apps, and a panel for your Photos, Videos and Music.


Smart Touch Remote

Smart Touch Remote

The Smart Touch Remote Control features an innovative touch pad and built-in microphone allowing you to easily interact with your Smart TV.

Quad Core processor

Quad Core Processor

Explore and multitask faster with our Quad Core Processor. This extra power gives you faster web browsing, smoother interaction and allows you to switch between content even faster than before.



Built-in WiFi

Built-in WiFi

Enhance the connectivity capabilities of your TV with Built-in WiFi.

S-Recommendation

S-Recommendation

Ask the TV for recommendations while you're watching TV or
visit the full S-Recommendation hub to find new things to watch.


Web Browser

Full Web Browser

All the benefits of full web browsing, right on your TV. From social sites like Facebook and Twitter to news, weather, entertainment, blogs and more. Discover even more content possibilities with your Smart TV.

Smart Evolution

Smart Evolution

The Smart Evolution Port allows you to update your Smart TV in the future. The Smart Evolution Kit* plugs into the back of your TV and updates it with new software and technology that will improve your TV performance - faster speed, more content, more features.


Clear Motion 1200

Clear Motion Rate 1200

A Clear Motion Rate of 1200 is the ultimate level of motion-clarity for Samsung LED TVs. LED TVs with this CMR can display action-packed movement with superior sharpness, clarity and contrast. Clear Motion Rate was developed to accurately measure how well an LCD or LED TV can depict fast-moving images. Previously, motion-clarity was calculated by the frame refresh rate alone. But CMR offers a more complete measure by calculating 3 factors: frame refresh rate, image processor speed and backlight technology


Micro Dimming Ultimate

Micro Dimming Ultimate

Experience incredible picture contrast, color and detail with Micro Dimming Ultimate. By maximizing the contrast between lights and darks, Samsung's Micro Dimming technology displays a picture that is as true-to-life as possible. Our innovative technology scans zones across the image and adjusts brightness to deliver deeper dark tones and brighter whites. It also eliminates the "halo" effect and image distortion that can happen with diffused lights. The Ultimate version of this technology optimizes the quality to new heights by scanning 2x the number of zones in the image. The result is a crystal-clear picture with realistic, vivid detail and accurate color reproduction.



Samsung Active 3D

Samsung Active 3D

Enjoy stunning Full HD 1080p in both 2D and 3D modes. With Samsung's 3D converter, turn 2D viewing into 3D for an amazing cinematic experience.

Ultra Clear Panel

Ultra Clear Panel

Ultra Clear Panel absorbs most ambient light and virtually eliminates reflections. Ultra Clear Panel also helps make colors more vibrant with deeper blacks and enhanced contrast for crisper images and excellent shadow detail.


Clean Back Design

Clean Back Design

The new Samsung Smart TV represents the graceful intersection of striking innovation and minimalistic design. The elegant combination of technology and design produces a TV that incorporates Ultra-slim LED depth with a new Clean Back design.

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Energy Star

ENERGY STAR qualified products meet strict energy efficiency specifications set by the government. This Samsung TV not only meets ENERGY STAR requirements; it exceeds them.

*Smart Evolution Kit sold separately

What's Included:

UN65F8000 65-Inch Ultra Slim 3D Smart LED HDTV, Smart Touch Remote, 4 Pairs of 3D Active Glasses, and Documentation

F8000 Series Specifications

Samsung LED TV Comparison Chart




Series F8000 F7500 F7100 F6400 F6300 FH6030 F5500 F5000 F4000
Sizes (inches) 46, 55, 60, 65, 75
46, 55, 60
46, 55, 60, 65, 75
40, 46, 50, 55, 60, 65, 75
32, 40, 46, 50, 55, 60, 65 40, 46, 55 32, 40, 46, 50 22, 32, 40, 46, 50 19, 29
Resolution Full HD 1080p Full HD 1080p Full HD 1080p Full HD 1080p Full HD 1080p Full HD 1080p Full HD 1080p Full HD 1080p HD 720p
CMR 1200 960 720 480 240 240 120 120 120
Samsung Active Full HD 3D





Micro Dimming
Ultimate + Precision Black Pro Standard Standard




Smart TV 2.0
Smart Interaction 2.0
Processor Quad Core
Quad Core
Dual Core
Dual Core
Dual Core

Dual Core


Smart Evolution
AllShare Play
SoundShare
Wi-Fi Built-in

ConnectShare Movie
Built-in Camera



HDMI/USB
4/3
4/3
4/3
4/3
4/3 2/1 3/2 2/1
2/1
Remote Control
Smart Touch
Smart Touch
Smart Touch
Smart Touch
Universal Universal Universal Universal
Universal
Wireless Keyboard Compatible



Samsung UN65F8000 65-Inch 1080p 240Hz 3D Ultra Slim Smart LED HDTV Review

*Updated on 6/16/13 to reflect upgrade to 60"*

Overall: I have had this TV series for about 3 months now. I am VERY pleased with the purchase. The previous ES8000 model was plagued with cloudiness, banding--both gone in F series. Flashlighting is minimal on this set and improved over the ES series. I needed a LED TV upgrade and was on a budget ($2500 OTD/with tax) that didn't place me in the local array dimming technology zone(best type of TV right now). Plasma's are too reflective for my environment and the extra heat is unwanted (check out the Samsung PN51F8500 though, sounds wonderful).

Right away I noticed how solid the TV itself felt. IF I had to do it over again, I would definitely recommend the 55"(or 60" I have now) F8000 for others to buy over the ES8000. Just ensure you get the best deal for it as the MSRP is overpriced. For ES8000 owners...I wouldn't upgrade. No way. This TV will hold me over until 4K's are on the market for awhile, helping perfect them and lower price.

Be wary of some of these random 1 star reviews, as many users do not even own the F series TV! Or they had an issue because they didn't have the right settings configured. I feel this TV rates 5 stars as I believe this tech is at it's "ceiling" and there is minimal room for improvement using edge lit tech.

For those who wish the short and simple, thats it! Keep reading for indepth review.

Current FIXABLE problems with firmware 11.10:
-3D setting "light control" settins on "high" resets to "low"
-Netflix, Vudu, Amazon Prime, DLNA video's all have cinema black disabled(supposedly this can be fixed in app updates but its remained off)

Picture Quality: The picture quality on this TV is fantastic especially after a few color tweaks (posted below). The blacks are so DEEP compared to my last tv(direct lit led). There is a SMALL amount of flash lighting in all four corners(more noticable on 60" when in PC mode); I believe this is a fault for ALL edge lit tv's as that is how the image functions. I can only notice flashlighting in all black lighting with something like movie title in middle of screen and black on rest of screen, or if in PC mode with a most black screen. Unless you are really looking for it in a black screen and concentrated on a corner you will not notice flashlighting.

Viewing Angle: Fairly limited. You will notice the farther off center you will notice more of a degradation in picture quality. This doesn't bother me as my "seat" is always right in front. Most end users are not as particular or picky as me when it comes to picture quality, many will not even care or notice a difference until a more extreme angle(an angle you can't reach in the room my TV is in).

Price: MSRP is overpriced. Ensure you get a good deal and get a store to pricematch to best price you can find. The 55" should be around $1999 and 60" $2330. I attempted to get Amazon to price match a store that was not on their official authorized list and they refused (attempted multiple times, through different numbers and chat). It was a $500 difference. I've found this TV from stores as low as $2075. I ended up having the local Best Buy price match this tv for me. I bought my last flagship Samsung TV in 2008/9. The A850 model(now in bedroom, this TV still satisfies me and looks better than many lower model Sammy TV's on market today).

Stand: I hated the TV stand. To feng shui for me. My wife loved it though. It actually fit our TV stand, be warwned if you have a small TV stand it will not fit...this stand is very wide. This helps the tv to appear to "float". It even came with some sort of oversized plastic screws and rope that ensured a child couldn't pull the TV down (smart). I planned on mounting this TV though like my last TV, so the stand doesn't matter much to me.

Wall Mount: I opted for a low profile wall mount from Monoprice. The one I picked was $14 and the product ID number is 5918 from monoprice's website. I linked the same mount below through amazon but it is $8 more here. This places the TV pretty much ON the wall with this mount. It's about 19mm off of the actual wall. I was able to run the power cord and a Redmere technology HDMI thin cord(10ft for $17 over at Monoprice..same cord is cheaper on Amazon)Monoprice 10-Feet HDMI Cable with RedMere Technology. It came with all the necessary bolts and spacers for the F8000 (1 small/1 large on top bolts and 2 smalls on bottom bolts). Monoprice Ultra-Slim Low Profile Wall Mount Bracket

Heat: Had the TV on for 12 hours and couldn't find any hot spots or to much heat to make me worried with how close the TV was to the wall. Was an issue on certain ES8000 sets last year causing a V spot of cloudiness.

Remote: The remote is solid and touch part is amazing. It's not a gimmick at all and actually works great. I find it easy to type with there on screen keyboard. Came with crappy batteries so I opted for some standard spare ones I had in the house. It would have been nice to get a standard remote though for older generations that do not like touchpad technology. The European model gets a 2nd remote. *update* Apply for free standard remote here: It appears you cannot post direct links to the manufacturer goto your tv i.e. UN60F8000 and click the "Support" tab. On that page at the top there is a blue box that states "click here to see if you qualify for a free IR remote". Click that link and fill the form out and it will inform you if you can recieve the free remote. I will try the link one more time: www DOT samsung DOT com/us/support/owners/product/UN60F8000BFXZA#

Extended Warranty: I bought my warranty through Costco's squaretrade deal for $99. It will cover ME for 4 years. If I used my AMEX it would have been 5. Research your own warranties and determine if you are ok with how squaretrade handles their warranties, they will not put more money into it then what the TV is worth (pretty sure it is actually what YOU paid for it).

Smart Hub/"Smart TV" features: Easy, smooth. It would be nice if it was a bit more customizable. Its nice to have all apps in one system. No more need to use my xbox or bluray player apps as the tv smart hub works great. Browsing the internet is as smooth as Safari on my iPhone 5. EXCEPT when dealing with flash, then it slows way down...I'm not sure if flash is compatible. Netflix and Amazon Video stream fine, just wish they had the Smart LED feature. S-Recommended feature does not support Century Link Prism TV(their FIOS tv). They have the DSL rights to my area so I can't have any other FIOS TV. Not a fan of motion control, just like the kinect not useful yet, to gimmicky. Voice seems fairly well if you practice at using it although I had a movie set it off twice in a matter of 3 weeks. I prefer to hit buttons myself, using your voice still isn't natural to me. I was able to stream DLNA sources easily(up to 1080P 3D) with no issues wireless on a 5ghz network. Only issue is DLNA servers on Samsung TV's don't let you fastfoward so you have to find a workaround for certain movie formats. Mine solution was using ZappoTV(free app on iphone) to inform my NAS DLNA to stream to TV...then I could FF/Rewind on tv with touchpad remote(flicking remote left or right) OR doing it form my phone.

Smart LED: This is certainly more of a "personal" setting depending on what you prefer to stare at. I believe if you are a videophile that is obcessed with "trueness" leave it on low. I went from 'low' to 'standard' and really enjoy it there.

Cinema Black: I love this feature it certinaly makes the bars more black on widescreen flicks. I have not noticed this(nor have others), but another owner claim that the black bleeds into the picture where the black meets the "lit" area. Again you be the judge of this feature, let your eyes guide you.

Devices: Hooked up my 10-13 year old 1st gen microsoft bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Worked just fine, somewhat impressed how functional it seemed to be.

Banding: I did several different banding tests and had no banding. I found none on the 55"/60", I have yet to see a 65" without minimal banding.

Stuttering: I really had to work on finding something to get this tv to stutter. My bluray player on any movie? No. Streaming all different types of formats up to 1080P 3D quality on my laptop to TV via HDMI..no stutter. Streaming from my NAS(Synology DS213+) to TV with same formats/qualities listed above. No stuttering. Other users have noted stuttering on Verizon FIOS though and had to set their AMP to clear. Mine works great on custom(settings below).

Sound: No idea, disabled it to use my own speakers(newegg runs crazy sales on polk audio speakers) and a Denon 2112CI..link to the current model Denon AVR-2113CI. A few years ago I spent $700 for Samsung's HTIB. HUGE mistake, so many repairs. Do yourself a favor and invest in a real audio company that has longer warranties and stand behind their product for longer.

The firmware I'm currently running is 11.10. Right when I started the TV and setup network it notified me that I had an update available. I said not to and to turn automatic updates off. Still, Samsung updated the firmware (they are known to sometimes do this). This can be a bad thing as in the past on other sets they sometimes take away features or make the sets look worse--not better. On my last TV it was easy to upgrade OR downgrade firmware...now it's a PITA to downgrade but still possible.

Evolution Kits: I think until these kits prove themselves they are a complete and utter joke. UNLESS these kits prove themselves somehow improving picture quality. If they don't at most I might update the last year its "compatible" with my set to upgrade the processor.

Game Mode: This setting helps reduce lag while playing through your gaming consoles(xbox/ps3). I played BF3 on my Xbox just find and did not notice any lag. Before there was a noticable different between how great PC mode was and game mode. Although on firmware version 11.10 game mode seems similiar to PC mode. This is great news as you have much more control over color settings in game mode(such as smart led).

NOTE: PC mode can only be accessed on sources not assigned to a "Samsung" device(i.e. Samsung Bluray) or any input set up with their universal remote system...it renames source forcing a keyboard naming option that does not enable PC mode. Simply select HDMI 1/2/3/4, select tools(top right), a drop down list should appear, select PC and select it. This mode/dropdown list is ONLY accessible from HDMI's that weren't previously assigned to a Samsung Product or your universal remote. If you wish to assign PC mode to a port previously assigned to STB, just delete the universal remote settings.

The features currently disabled in 11.10 are:

Game mode settings not available:

Picture Options:
HDMI Black Level (forced normal)
Film Mode
Auto Motion Plus
Advanced Settings:
10p White Balance (forced off)
Motion Lighting

PC Mode settings not available(MUCH is disabled):
Tone
Color
Picture Options:
Digital Clean View
MPEG Noise Filter
HDMI Black Level
Film Mode
Auto Motion Plus
Smart LED
Cinema Black
Advanced Settings:
Dynamic Contrast
Black Tone
Flesh
RGB Only Mode
Color Space
10P White Balance
Expert Pattern
Motion Lighting

Summary: This TV is an excellent purchase for the right price. I believe it deserves 5 out of 5 stars as it has very MINOR flaws: somewhat pricy, stand wide, stutters nonexistent on my tv service(Century Link Prism TV), flashlighting (BARELY there, doesn't even bother me as I think this edge lit tech is perfected and Samsung needs to hurry up and take over sharp's patents so they can get back to local dimming array models).

Current Color Setting's I'm using from an online forum members home calibrator's settings and slight tinkering of my own(remember, all sets are different and you should use this only as an end user as a good "base" too start with and tweak to your liking's..thats why mine do not match his, also I added turned on cineblack/smartled):

Backlight=6(night)-16(day) with best backlight to use being 10-12

Movie Mode
BL 10
Cont 94
Bright 45
Sharp 0
Color 48
G/R 49/51
Pic Size - screen fit
Pic Options
Color temp - Warm 2
Film Mode Auto 2
Auto Motion Plus > Custon > Blur = 10, Judder = 0, Clear = off (NOTE: if you get stuttering, try turning it off custom and onto Clear)

Adv
Color Space - Auto
10 point WB - Off
White Balance:
ro 25
go 26
bo 26
rg 16
gg 25
bg 23

Black Tone=Off
Smart LED=Standard
Cinablack=On
Eco= Off
Dynamic Contrast=Off(using it can crush blacks too if not careful)

3D mode
Note: Press the 3D button on the remote and select 2D>3D to put the F8000 into the 3D mode

Turn off everything that says Auto to Off Except Film Auto2 in Picture Options

Movie Mode - Note 2D and 3D on the same HDMI Input have separate memories
Backlight 20
Contrast 100
Brightness 46
Sharpness 0
Color 50
Tint 50/50
Picture Size - Screen Fit

3D
Perspective 0
Frame Depth 5
Light Control > High

Advanced Mode - off, off, 0, and off

Color Space - Custom
R R38 G0 B6
G 15 23 9
B 9 0 51
Y 47 52 9
C 14 51 53
M 41 0 48

White Balance 27 29 28 0 8 50

10p White Balance - not accessible in 3D mode

Gamma -3

Picture Options
Color Temp Warm2
Dig Clean View - off
Mpeg - off
Film - Auto 2
Auto Motion Plus - Custom - Blur 10 - Judder 5 - LED Clear Motion Off(if having motion problems, try "clear)
Smart LED Off
Cinema Black Off

XBox: Game Mode on, HDMI Black Level: Normal, Standard Mode(I adjust the settings similiar to whats posted above, higher backlight.

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